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Mick Hyall
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

qdos wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfgc4i7W-68

Like I say I'd use it in a video about freeflight but not something I'd choose to dance to

Can I just say: bleeagh.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RichardP wrote:

Ditto that! Having sat through the 5min 48s of the mix on YouTube I'm bored stiff! First 2min 30s is exactly the same and the rest doesn't seem to go anywhere! Uninspiring with no musical highlights - I'd expect to hear this more in a nightclub not on a Modern Jive dancefloor... The 30s sample of the radio edit on iTunes sounds exactly the same.

I'd like to say I hope there is a better mix out there somewhere which some people are raving about, however, I find it hard to believe any mix of that monotonous nothing could ever be described by a dancer as 'good' Shocked If anyone can prove me wrong please do!


I agree that it's not very inspiring (for me as a dancer that is) but it's pleasant in an innocuous, floaty kind of way, with a beat that's fairly easy for beginners to pick up, and I merely suggest that some jivers like this sort of thing ( Surprised )
I'm certainly not raving about it! Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and I merely suggest that some jivers like this sort of thing

If you mean '...to dance to...' and you are correct, then someone should have a friendly word with these dancers and tell them they've picked the wrong dance style to learn, and they should restrict their dancing to wedding discos and birthday parties.

If someone joined a Shakespeare Society and then kept insisting that the group should be planning excursions to the Raymond Revuebar instead of the Globe Theatre, somebody would point out the error, wouldn't they?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mick Hyall wrote:
DJ Andy wrote:
and I merely suggest that some jivers like this sort of thing

If you mean '...to dance to...' and you are correct, then someone should have a friendly word with these dancers and tell them they've picked the wrong dance style to learn, and they should restrict their dancing to wedding discos and birthday parties.

By all means, come and have a 'friendly word' with them, and tell them that they are 'wrong' and your viewpoint is 'right'. Smile See how far you get. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slightly off topic but how do people figure out what bpm a track is? I can't remember if I have asked this before but is there reliable software for MP3s or do you have to set up the metronome and tap your feet to the track while adjusting the speed? Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Southern Jiver wrote:
Slightly off topic but how do people figure out what bpm a track is? I can't remember if I have asked this before but is there reliable software for MP3s or do you have to set up the metronome and tap your feet to the track while adjusting the speed? Smile


Well you could use the old-fashioned way, counting the beats whilst looking at your watch (I still use this method sometimes!)

Or try this website
http://www.all8.com/tools/bpm.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mick Hyall wrote:

If you mean '...to dance to...' and you are correct, then someone should have a friendly word with these dancers and tell them they've picked the wrong dance style to learn, and they should restrict their dancing to wedding discos and birthday parties.

If someone joined a Shakespeare Society and then kept insisting that the group should be planning excursions to the Raymond Revuebar instead of the Globe Theatre, somebody would point out the error, wouldn't they?


Mick, I have learned (much to do with reading this Forum) that everyone has different preferences when it comes to Jiving. No-one is wrong or right, it's a private preference. You could use the saying "One man's meat is another man's poison" in this context. Therefore, regardless of what speed music you like to Jive to, please respect that other people will enjoy dancing to different speeds also. There is no need for you to be continually putting down Jivers who prefer more uptempo tracks just because you prefer the slower ones. I would suggest you might prefer dancing to more Smooth Jive Fusion type music and you should talk to Sugarfoot about that or look in the "Other Dance Styles" part of the forum. Please be more tolerant of other people's preferences. Thank you. SJ
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, looks like some people aren't finding your comments as amusing as I am Mick Crying or Very sad I did very inappropriately laugh out loud at work though Very Happy Thanks!!!

Please come and say hi if you're at the next Minstead Meltdown (8th May) - it would be good to put a face to the posts!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SJ...Without wishing to start it all up again; Mick's strong posts against the fast Jivers are no worse than the anti slower tempo welcome I got on here from the fast tempo crowd. You had no problem with that at the time as it supported your view.

But I do agree that 2 wrongs don't make a right and that tolerance is the key.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please re-read my post, sugarfoot and pay special attention to where I say I have learned (mainly through this forum) etc. I don't want there to be this sort of aggravation on the Forum. It's fine to put your point of view but there's no need to try and antagonise people. I believe you yourself stressed about having tolerance. SJ
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted 23 tracks on this thread none of which got any feedback except lots of negative on the Deadmau5 track. Shocked

All the other tracks are more to my taste for Jive. I included the Deadmau5 track because it was newish and popular in Jive venues up and down the country. To my mind it is a typical MJ track with and easy steady beat, but hey ho what do I know...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not quite sure about the point you are making in your last post. Of your 23 tracks, I have heard about 3 so I can't really comment on the rest. I expect that would be about the same for the average person on this forum. What were you hoping for/
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Southern Jiver wrote:
Not quite sure about the point you are making in your last post. Of your 23 tracks, I have heard about 3 so I can't really comment on the rest. I expect that would be about the same for the average person on this forum. What were you hoping for/

I was introducing tracks that I have played for Jive, but have not heard locally. I knew that most would not have heard of them. The odd one out was Deadmau5 that I have never played that locals had not heard of either. I find it interesting that it was only this track that attracted any feedback.

Not expecting to much really…it is the way of things. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SF - have seen your list but haven't had the chance to check the tracks out yet... Will post once I have Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay SugerFoot, you wanted some feedback on your track suggestions:

Shame - Evelyn "Champagne" King - nice-ish
Searching – Change - No thanks!
Dancing in the street - Martha Reeves & The Vandellas - Good familiarity and is okay
September - Earth Wind and Fire. Yes, this is ok
I'm a roadrunner - Jnr Walker & The Allstars. Yeah, it's okay.
Pride And Joy - Marvin Gaye. Yeap.
Shotgun - Junior Walker. Yeah, not bad.
Private Lives - Grace Jones - No way. No energy!
Mystify – INXS - Yeah, maybe try this one out
This Will Be (An Everlasting Love) - Natalie Cole. Hmmm, maybe. It's pretty good
Joe le taxi - Vanessa Paradis. Yeap, good suggestion
Teardrops - Womack & Womack. Yes please
Give me just a little more time - Chairmen of the board. Oh dear oh, dear!
Beautiful Girls - Sean Kingston. Not a cockin' pickin' chance!
Waiting For A Train - Flash And The Pan. Got hopeful at start, then he started singing! And then it just bored the C*** out of me!
Physical - Olivia Newton-John. Hmmm, maybe...
Wait A Minute - Pussycat Dolls Ft Timbaland. No thanks.
Money (That's What I Want) - Boyz II Men. Now this is a bit better!

And there you have it. Just my opinion after a brief listen to each one...
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