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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And another track (it can't be described as a song) that should be filed under "kill crush destroy" is the ab-so-lute-ly ghastly big beat technotronic version of Michael Buble's "Just haven't met you yet" that was played in the main room at Camber at about 0110 this morning. Take Buble's fabulous song, remove all the big band stuff and musicianship, insert a huge base, and some tweety synthesiser flatulating, but in such a way that it doesn't fit the 'paste-ed on' words, and you are left with one of the quite simply worst cases of bastardising proper music that I have ever ever heard. It was dreadful. Buble's people should sue someone for doing it to one of the best songs he's ever done. I feel like sueing someone just for hearing it!!!!!!.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:08 pm    Post subject: Gotta Go Home' by Boney M Reply with quote

Why did they murder this track by mixing it. This is a good old track, happy and upbeat, but I have never heard it played at a jive dance
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose some people would probably scoff at the idea of Boney M at a dance night - out-of-date, taboo, crap, whatever.

I've mentioned to several people now that Barbra Streisand is just a Boney M song with a thumping computer drum kit attached to it. The responses I get vary between bewilderment, to "who?", to a look that can only be described as like they just caught a whiff of rotting meat.

Some people are very quick to diss music just because of its image and the period it comes from, but suddenly even the most unfashionable track becomes hip and trendy just because someone stuck a computer drum beat in front of it and mashed it up.

Still, I suppose musicians are no more guilty of it now than when Walter Murphy took a certain fifth symphony and mashed it up in the name of Disco. Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJ Mike wrote:

Still, I suppose musicians are no more guilty of it now than when Walter Murphy took a certain fifth symphony and mashed it up in the name of Disco. Wink


And indeed it goes back much further than that.

Dance bands of the thirties and forties re-arranged popular tunes to suit their particular needs. A song could be a slow romantic ballad or an up-tempo dance number depending on the style of the band and leader.
The in-house arranger was the forerunner of the modern day remixer.

In the fifties, Louis Prima re-arranged ballads to suit his Las Vegas lounge act turning them into swinging dance numbers.

A famous American author (Elmore Leonard I think) was once asked whether he thought the movies made from his novels were any good, and he replied that it didn't matter if they weren't because the books he'd written were still there for people to read.

A remix doesn't snuff a previous version out of existence - it's still there for you to listen to.
However, I do agree that it's pretty irritating if the DJ is playing it and it's not the version you want to dance to!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJ Andy wrote:
However, I do agree that it's pretty irritating if the DJ is playing it and it's not the version you want to dance to!

The only difference, to me, is that all the examples you site are creative - Louis Prima re-arranging ballads, Walter Murphy setting Beethoven's Fifth to disco, indeed any re-arrangement of a song in a new and unique fashion can be a great thing. And yes, the original is always there if you want to hear it.

The thing that irks me about Barbra Streisand is that there's zero creativity in there. Take one Boney M song riff (not even the WHOLE song at that), stick a computer drum beat in front of it, play with the knobs on your mixing desk a bit. Finally just randomly say the words "Barbra Streisand", and you suddenly have a dance craze hit.

Still, you have to laugh at the commercialism of it - it's like a licence to print money when you can release crap like that and have it storm the charts.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good news! Actually bad news. I have heard a WORSE song than either Barbra Streisand or the BEPs 'Time' at a jive event. Sit down now....

It was a mix of Barbra Streisand and 'beat it' by Michael Jackson. Where instead of going woo ooo oo ooo oo Barbra Streisand it went woo ooo oo ooo oo Michael Jackson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I actually had to hide.....

The really good news? Its on Youtube!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOz8D6Ewmsk

Sorry...
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jiveonaut, you have to name & shame the people responsible for inflicting this on you Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Words fail me...I am utterly speechless!

(Not like me Wink)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm, I wonder what you'd all say about this track:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVVfbpYn8Ic

Further: I wonder if any of you have ever played / danced to it ?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TeeDee wrote:
Hmmmm, I wonder what you'd all say about this track:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVVfbpYn8Ic
Never danced to it and hope I never have the opportunity. It's entirely too repetitive and empty of content for me. However, it's not as bad as some of the other ones he's done.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks SJ - that's the kind of response I was expecting, though hoped a few others might have contributed.

This track is certainly a 'marmite' one (if you like Electro Swing, you'll love it otherwise it'll probably grate!), hence I would never play anything like this very often.

But I chose this particular one as it highlights, for me, the difference between listening to a track and dancing to it.

If I'd played this (or a track like this) a year ago it would have (probably) cleared the floor. These days, however, it gets requested and then gets people rushing to the floor saying things like "Oh man, I love this one!". Why? Because it is fun - and that's the point, is it not Wink
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